Hi all, what’s the expected range per hour for charging?

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Hi, I have recently got an id.3 and don’t seem to be getting the expected range per hour charging. I’ve set the charge times to 6.5 hours from 00:15 overnight on a 7kw charger. But, it’s only adding an average of 6 - 6.5 miles of range per charging hour. What are others experiencing with their chargers?
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I get 9 miles with a 3 pin granny charger. Have you accidentally selected “reduced charging current “ in the app?
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Thanks for the reply. I’ve checked this just in case and the reduced charge definitely wasn’t set. But, I’m going to double-check, just to make sure.
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Pur424 wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:12 am Hi, I have recently got an id.3 and don’t seem to be getting the expected range per hour charging. I’ve set the charge times to 6.5 hours from 00:15 overnight on a 7kw charger. But, it’s only adding an average of 6 - 6.5 miles of range per charging hour. What are others experiencing with their chargers?

I'm guessing that you've used the in-car timed charging settings, with a "location"?

They don't work reliably, yet.

If you charger supports timed charging, use that instead and delete the "location" in the car.
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I currently get 10mph from a granny.
50mph from TESCO 22kw AC ( Id3 limited to 11kw)
30mph from a 7kw charger.
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scott28tt wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:33 am
Pur424 wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:12 am Hi, I have recently got an id.3 and don’t seem to be getting the expected range per hour charging. I’ve set the charge times to 6.5 hours from 00:15 overnight on a 7kw charger. But, it’s only adding an average of 6 - 6.5 miles of range per charging hour. What are others experiencing with their chargers?

I'm guessing that you've used the in-car timed charging settings, with a "location"?

They don't work reliably, yet.

If you charger supports timed charging, use that instead and delete the "location" in the car.
Thank you. I’ve now removed location and will try again using the charger’s timers.
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Daveion wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:47 pm I currently get 10mph from a granny.
50mph from TESCO 22kw AC ( Id3 limited to 11kw)
30mph from a 7kw charger.
Cheers...that just shows that I’m really getting a low mile per charge hour rate. I’ve contacted the EVSE supplier for them to investigate and hopefully improve the situation.
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I get 35 on public 7Kw so expect similar from my new home charger, probably a little less. My granny charger has current ratings at 13A, 10A, and 8A. The lower charging rate may be due to a low amp rate being selected. However I understand that 10A should be the max used on a UK home circuit.
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Pur424 wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:23 pm Thank you. I’ve now removed location and will try again using the charger’s timers.

That should do it.

VW need to fix their in-car timed charging - it's been fed back to them by many people.
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It depends on the weather what you should get on a home charger. When weather is good, 30mph max. Can be as low as 23 mph. It's the same current coming in, just because of weather the battery doesn't have as much range.
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Exactly - I clocked 249mph on a 50kw instavolt - on a warm day after low consumption pootling about town speeds…
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Its when it goes to miles per minute rather than per hour that you know you're on a quick charger.
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My BP Pulse Home Charger is doing 21mph at the moment, is that normal?
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phixion wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:33 pm My BP Pulse Home Charger is doing 21mph at the moment, is that normal?
Hello there, I'm currently charging, using a BP Pulse charger and I'm getting a steady 32mph. I started charging immediately after a run out, so I'm guessing the batteries were warm, and I don't know if that makes a difference? Hopefully, someone with more knowledge about these things will offer a more conclusive answer!

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phixion wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:33 pm My BP Pulse Home Charger is doing 21mph at the moment, is that normal?

If it’s a 7kW charger it will add about 12% per hour all year round, assuming you have a 58kWh car, so whether 21mph is “right” depends on your predicted range right now.
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CarterHounslow wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:35 am It depends on the weather what you should get on a home charger. When weather is good, 30mph max. Can be as low as 23 mph. It's the same current coming in, just because of weather the battery doesn't have as much range.
4 degrees C, 7kW Sainsbury charger delivering 21mph today...how low can it go? :o
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Smitten wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:43 pm
CarterHounslow wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:35 am It depends on the weather what you should get on a home charger. When weather is good, 30mph max. Can be as low as 23 mph. It's the same current coming in, just because of weather the battery doesn't have as much range.
4 degrees C, 7kW Sainsbury charger delivering 21mph today...how low can it go? :o

It was still delivering 7kW, the same as it would do in the middle of July when the car would probably say 28mph (or something around that), this is why expressing the charge rate in mph is confusing.
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scott28tt wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:05 pm
Smitten wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:43 pm
CarterHounslow wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:35 am It depends on the weather what you should get on a home charger. When weather is good, 30mph max. Can be as low as 23 mph. It's the same current coming in, just because of weather the battery doesn't have as much range.
4 degrees C, 7kW Sainsbury charger delivering 21mph today...how low can it go? :o

It was still delivering 7kW, the same as it would do in the middle of July when the car would probably say 28mph (or something around that), this is why expressing the charge rate in mph is confusing.
Yes agreed but useful to know how much charge you are getting in different conditions. 7kW doesn't mean much to most people. I just know it is SLOW although it is officially FAST.
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Smitten wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:37 pm
scott28tt wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:05 pm
Smitten wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:43 pm

4 degrees C, 7kW Sainsbury charger delivering 21mph today...how low can it go? :o

It was still delivering 7kW, the same as it would do in the middle of July when the car would probably say 28mph (or something around that), this is why expressing the charge rate in mph is confusing.
Yes agreed but useful to know how much charge you are getting in different conditions. 7kW doesn't mean much to most people. I just know it is SLOW although it is officially FAST.

The mph rate differing so much between winter and summer confuses people, the guess-o-meter doing the same confuses people.

VW don’t make it any easier for those people yet, til they start showing a charge rate in kW and a battery % alongside the predicted range on the display behind the steering wheel.
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scott28tt wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:05 pmIt was still delivering 7kW, the same as it would do in the middle of July when the car would probably say 28mph (or something around that), this is why expressing the charge rate in mph is confusing.

Can you expand on this please? Surely charging at 30mph is faster than 21mph?

I feel like I'm missing some information! :lol:
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