Hi all, what’s the expected range per hour for charging?

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Exactly - I clocked 249mph on a 50kw instavolt - on a warm day after low consumption pootling about town speeds…

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Its when it goes to miles per minute rather than per hour that you know you're on a quick charger.
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My BP Pulse Home Charger is doing 21mph at the moment, is that normal?
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phixion wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:33 pm My BP Pulse Home Charger is doing 21mph at the moment, is that normal?
Hello there, I'm currently charging, using a BP Pulse charger and I'm getting a steady 32mph. I started charging immediately after a run out, so I'm guessing the batteries were warm, and I don't know if that makes a difference? Hopefully, someone with more knowledge about these things will offer a more conclusive answer!

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phixion wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:33 pm My BP Pulse Home Charger is doing 21mph at the moment, is that normal?

If it’s a 7kW charger it will add about 12% per hour all year round, assuming you have a 58kWh car, so whether 21mph is “right” depends on your predicted range right now.
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CarterHounslow wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:35 am It depends on the weather what you should get on a home charger. When weather is good, 30mph max. Can be as low as 23 mph. It's the same current coming in, just because of weather the battery doesn't have as much range.
4 degrees C, 7kW Sainsbury charger delivering 21mph today...how low can it go? :o
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Smitten wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:43 pm
CarterHounslow wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:35 am It depends on the weather what you should get on a home charger. When weather is good, 30mph max. Can be as low as 23 mph. It's the same current coming in, just because of weather the battery doesn't have as much range.
4 degrees C, 7kW Sainsbury charger delivering 21mph today...how low can it go? :o

It was still delivering 7kW, the same as it would do in the middle of July when the car would probably say 28mph (or something around that), this is why expressing the charge rate in mph is confusing.
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scott28tt wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:05 pm
Smitten wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:43 pm
CarterHounslow wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:35 am It depends on the weather what you should get on a home charger. When weather is good, 30mph max. Can be as low as 23 mph. It's the same current coming in, just because of weather the battery doesn't have as much range.
4 degrees C, 7kW Sainsbury charger delivering 21mph today...how low can it go? :o

It was still delivering 7kW, the same as it would do in the middle of July when the car would probably say 28mph (or something around that), this is why expressing the charge rate in mph is confusing.
Yes agreed but useful to know how much charge you are getting in different conditions. 7kW doesn't mean much to most people. I just know it is SLOW although it is officially FAST.
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Smitten wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:37 pm
scott28tt wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:05 pm
Smitten wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:43 pm

4 degrees C, 7kW Sainsbury charger delivering 21mph today...how low can it go? :o

It was still delivering 7kW, the same as it would do in the middle of July when the car would probably say 28mph (or something around that), this is why expressing the charge rate in mph is confusing.
Yes agreed but useful to know how much charge you are getting in different conditions. 7kW doesn't mean much to most people. I just know it is SLOW although it is officially FAST.

The mph rate differing so much between winter and summer confuses people, the guess-o-meter doing the same confuses people.

VW don’t make it any easier for those people yet, til they start showing a charge rate in kW and a battery % alongside the predicted range on the display behind the steering wheel.
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scott28tt wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:05 pmIt was still delivering 7kW, the same as it would do in the middle of July when the car would probably say 28mph (or something around that), this is why expressing the charge rate in mph is confusing.

Can you expand on this please? Surely charging at 30mph is faster than 21mph?

I feel like I'm missing some information! :lol:
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phixion wrote: Sat Dec 11, 2021 8:11 pm
scott28tt wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:05 pmIt was still delivering 7kW, the same as it would do in the middle of July when the car would probably say 28mph (or something around that), this is why expressing the charge rate in mph is confusing.

Can you expand on this please? Surely charging at 30mph is faster than 21mph?

I feel like I'm missing some information! :lol:

What you might be missing is something called “maths” ;)

Most ID.3s have a 58kWh battery, and most home chargers are 7kW, that means your charger can add 12% of your battery’s total capacity per hour.

Let’s say it’s July and your ID.3 predicts a range of 240 miles at 100% charge, that means every 1% gives you 2.4 miles of range, so charging 12% per hour translates to 28.8mph.

Now it’s December and your predicted range is only 180 miles at 100% charge, that means each 1% gives you 1.8 miles of range, charging 12% per hour this time only translates to 21.6mph.

Nothing has changed in terms of your charging rate between July and December, in both cases it’s STILL 7kW and that’s STILL 12% of your capacity.
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scott28tt wrote: Sat Dec 11, 2021 8:41 pm What you might be missing is something called “maths” ;)

Most ID.3s have a 58kWh battery, and most home chargers are 7kW, that means your charger can add 12% of your battery’s total capacity per hour.

Let’s say it’s July and your ID.3 predicts a range of 240 miles at 100% charge, that means every 1% gives you 2.4 miles of range, so charging 12% per hour translates to 28.8mph.

Now it’s December and your predicted range is only 180 miles at 100% charge, that means each 1% gives you 1.8 miles of range, charging 12% per hour this time only translates to 21.6mph.

Nothing has changed in terms of your charging rate between July and December, in both cases it’s STILL 7kW and that’s STILL 12% of your capacity.

I never was good at maths :lol:

Saw a few screenshots from android in the WeConnect App, it seems they have added the kW rate of charge, update still yet to come on iOS.
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phixion wrote: Sat Dec 11, 2021 8:11 pm
scott28tt wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:05 pmIt was still delivering 7kW, the same as it would do in the middle of July when the car would probably say 28mph (or something around that), this is why expressing the charge rate in mph is confusing.

Can you expand on this please? Surely charging at 30mph is faster than 21mph?

I feel like I'm missing some information! :lol:
THis might make sense (might not)

Imagine you pull up to a petrol pump to fill up a 60 litre tank you're in a small economical hatch that does 50 mpg (11mpl approx) imagine just for maths it takes 10 mins to fill the tank, the fill rate in MPH is 3960mph

Now imagine a muscle car pulls up that does 25 mpg (approx 5.5 mpl) the same 10 minutes to fuil the tank but the effective fill rate would be 1980mph

It's a indiacation of how fast the charge will be used not how fast it's going in.
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