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Then they'll drop like a stone when normal output for new cars is restored. Some people buying nearly new cars during this unprecedented spike are going to lose a fortune in depreciation when the bubble bursts.
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So you and I have ordered on the same weekend, albeit a different car. Be interesting to hear how yours progresses. What dealer did you go through?
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Ordered Manganese Max with East Derry alloys on 5th August, got order number on the 12th. Initially estimated 20 week lead time. Build week estimated 45. Just contacted the dealer today, build week estimate is now 47 now, so I'd guess early Jan for delivery.
Max, Glacier White, MY23, Software 3.2
@pondsman that’s annoying, we ordered life pure performance with andoya wheels, assistance plus and design pack on 8th Aug and we’ve been and we’ve now been told production week 10 2022, when our original date was 43 2021.
Life Pro 58KW
Makena Turquoise, Andoya wheels, assitance +
Ordered 04/08/21
Order no - 31420***
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Makena Turquoise, Andoya wheels, assitance +
Ordered 04/08/21
Order no - 31420***
VW Cardiff
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Assuming that's DTD then?
I believe there's a quota per dealer, so that's where the DTD type disadvantages might occur, with no doubt more chance of getting an earlier build with a dealer than does lower volumes?
Assuming that's DTD then?
I believe there's a quota per dealer, so that's where the DTD type disadvantages might occur, with no doubt more chance of getting an earlier build with a dealer than does lower volumes?
That’s right, I managed to secure an amazing deal, and delivery in late Spring or early Summer is perfect for me as I wouldn’t want to have a new car during the winter months with the prospect of short days and filthy gritted roads.
I believe there's a quota per dealer, so that's where the DTD type disadvantages might occur, with no doubt more chance of getting an earlier build with a dealer than does lower volumes?
That’s right, I managed to secure an amazing deal, and delivery in late Spring or early Summer is perfect for me as I wouldn’t want to have a new car during the winter months with the prospect of short days and filthy gritted roads.
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Yep, mine is through JCB Medway too. I can only assume they’re selling a huge volume of cars to be able to discount to the level they are. The car I’ve ordered, a Max Pro Performance with a list price of a whisker under £40k was slashed by 11% to £35.5k. My local dealer claimed they only make 3% on ID.3s.
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Family Pro \ Manganese \ Derry Alloys \ Estimated 20 week lead time when ordered
Also got my order number on the 12th (Week 32). VW chat last week didn't have any update, emailed the dealer who has also given me an estimated build week of 47.
So fingers crossed for a Jan delivery, will be good to get a confirmed build week.
Family Pro Perf \ Managanese \ East Derry \ DTD
Order Number received 12th Aug - 2021 (Week 32)
Confirmed Build week 49 - 2021 (6th Dec - 12th Dec)
Order Num - 31422xxx
Status 38- 16/02/22
Status 40- 09/04/22
Collecting - 25/03/22
Order Number received 12th Aug - 2021 (Week 32)
Confirmed Build week 49 - 2021 (6th Dec - 12th Dec)
Order Num - 31422xxx
Status 38- 16/02/22
Status 40- 09/04/22
Collecting - 25/03/22
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Not sure how it works for them, but from what I remember, Ford used to give a 'free' car to a dealership if they hit their targets, so I guess (in theory) the margin from each one could be spread out across a lower margin on others.andrewparker wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:55 amYep, mine is through JCB Medway too. I can only assume they’re selling a huge volume of cars to be able to discount to the level they are. The car I’ve ordered, a Max Pro Performance with a list price of a whisker under £40k was slashed by 11% to £35.5k. My local dealer claimed they only make 3% on ID.3s.
e.g. profit made from volume bonuses, rather than individual cars.
I trust you have not included the £1750 PPC discount in your 11% calculation as this is not from the dealer's margin.andrewparker wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:55 am
Yep, mine is through JCB Medway too. I can only assume they’re selling a huge volume of cars to be able to discount to the level they are. The car I’ve ordered, a Max Pro Performance with a list price of a whisker under £40k was slashed by 11% to £35.5k. My local dealer claimed they only make 3% on ID.3s.
£33,500 + £17500 is the real price from the dealer if you did,
This is less than 7% dealer discount.
9 Sep 21 Ordered ID.3 Family Pro, Stonewashed Blue & East Derry
13 Sep 21 PCP approved. VW No: 3131xxxx
24 Sep 21 Temp build wk43, conf' 46
22 Nov 21 Conf' build wk 49
10 Jan 22 Code 38 Awaiting ship-release (wk48 build)
01 March preferred collection
13 Sep 21 PCP approved. VW No: 3131xxxx
24 Sep 21 Temp build wk43, conf' 46
22 Nov 21 Conf' build wk 49
10 Jan 22 Code 38 Awaiting ship-release (wk48 build)
01 March preferred collection
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The 11% is the total discount including the VWFS finance contribution. £39980 to £35450 (£2780 dealer discount, £1750 finance contribution).Cherry wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:58 pmI trust you have not included the £1750 PPC discount in your 11% calculation as this is not from the dealer's margin.andrewparker wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:55 am
Yep, mine is through JCB Medway too. I can only assume they’re selling a huge volume of cars to be able to discount to the level they are. The car I’ve ordered, a Max Pro Performance with a list price of a whisker under £40k was slashed by 11% to £35.5k. My local dealer claimed they only make 3% on ID.3s.
£33,500 + £17500 is the real price from the dealer if you did,
This is less than 7% dealer discount.
My local dealer claimed that they make 3%, so £1200 on a £40k car. Even if they were happy just breaking even (and why would they?), the total discount including finance contribution would be £2950, or £1580 short of the DTD price.
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Do not believe the 3% margin claim.andrewparker wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:36 pm
The 11% is the total discount including the VWFS finance contribution. £39980 to £35450 (£2780 dealer discount, £1750 finance contribution).
My local dealer claimed that they make 3%, so £1200 on a £40k car. Even if they were happy just breaking even (and why would they?), the total discount including finance contribution would be £2950, or £1580 short of the DTD price.
I assumed a 10% dealer margin and did not include the delivery charge or first registration fee.
I got over 8% pure dealer discount excluding PCP discount and in my case the government grant.
I beat DTD, but it was hard and for many not worth the effort. I got lucky on my last call.
A few days later DTD reduced their discount, so my saving was even higher.
But I have to drive 135 miles to collect, if it ever arrives!
I would pay up to £300 more for a local deal but their deal was not even close.
9 Sep 21 Ordered ID.3 Family Pro, Stonewashed Blue & East Derry
13 Sep 21 PCP approved. VW No: 3131xxxx
24 Sep 21 Temp build wk43, conf' 46
22 Nov 21 Conf' build wk 49
10 Jan 22 Code 38 Awaiting ship-release (wk48 build)
01 March preferred collection
13 Sep 21 PCP approved. VW No: 3131xxxx
24 Sep 21 Temp build wk43, conf' 46
22 Nov 21 Conf' build wk 49
10 Jan 22 Code 38 Awaiting ship-release (wk48 build)
01 March preferred collection
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I think I’m going to ask for a cost to trailer my car up to me. The dealer is 230 miles away so I think it would be money well spent. Either that or it’s a good opportunity to get accustomed to the new car!
Polestar 2 / Midnight / Plus / 20s
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I’d make a trip of it Andrewparker, stay the night before, you’ll be like a kid at Christmas, you’ll get to really enjoy it on the way home then, sadly my dealerships is about 2 miles away
Life Pro 58KW
Makena Turquoise, Andoya wheels, assitance +
Ordered 04/08/21
Order no - 31420***
VW Cardiff
Makena Turquoise, Andoya wheels, assitance +
Ordered 04/08/21
Order no - 31420***
VW Cardiff