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MotMot
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Post by MotMot » Sat Nov 20, 2021 5:43 pm

EV’s from nearly every brand are in short supply. A quick look on Autotrader nationally shows everything in short supply (5 id3’s on there) except MG’s Peugeots Vauxhalls and the older models (niro and kona’s).

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Utumno
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Post by Utumno » Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:22 pm

Cherry wrote:
Sat Nov 20, 2021 2:36 pm
Are people really willing to order now with an effective £1750 price increase due to the withdrawal of the finance deposit contribution? Perhaps, it will return soon.

Clearly they are. Dealers will just discount as necessary, in the absence of VWFS contribution.
ID.3 Tour 77kWh Pro S 204PS Tour in Manganese Grey (on order)
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Post by monkeyhanger » Sat Nov 20, 2021 7:00 pm

Utumno wrote:
Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:22 pm
Cherry wrote:
Sat Nov 20, 2021 2:36 pm
Are people really willing to order now with an effective £1750 price increase due to the withdrawal of the finance deposit contribution? Perhaps, it will return soon.

Clearly they are. Dealers will just discount as necessary, in the absence of VWFS contribution.
There's only so much margin to give in discount. I doubt very much that a dealer would swallow that £1750 deposit contribution in addition to discount they may have already been offering. It was free money from a different source. It will be an effective £1750. price increase, although VWFS might mitigate that a little by offering a lower APR%.

They might've just done that- finance calculator states 4.9%, wasn't it about 6.2% previously?

VWFS have decided that demand has massively exceeded supply and they don't need to incentivise buyers. Correspondingly many dealers are almost certainly limiting the discounts they offer as there are plenty of people willing to pay RRP or close to it at the moments while supply is curtailed.

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Post by Cherry » Sat Nov 20, 2021 7:25 pm

monkeyhanger wrote:
Sat Nov 20, 2021 7:00 pm

They might've just done that- finance calculator states 4.9%, wasn't it about 6.2% previously?
It was 4.7% when I ordered.

So, the interest rate is now higher and price effectively £1750 higher.
DTD have not increased their discount, hence you can assume the car is now £1750 more expensive.
DTD even reduced their discount slightly after I ordered (I did not use DTD),

Anyone who thinks a dealer will make up the £1750 finance deposit is probably getting a lousy discount.
One should except c.8% dealer discount + £2500 off if EV grant can be claimed (plus in the old days £1750 finance deposit).
On a Family Pro you should be getting over £2300 dealer discount alone so £6550 off list with £1750 contribution or £4800 off list now if EV grant is included, if not more.

Too many people see to be buying at high CarWow prices. This keeps the dealer happy!

It would be interesting if the "spreadsheet" stated dealer name and price agreed, not that everyone would want to disclose this! :D
9 Sep 21 Ordered ID.3 Family Pro in Stonewashed Blue & East Derry alloy wheels.
13 Sep 21 PCP approved and VW Order number provided 3131xxxx
24 Sep 21 Temporary build week 43, confirmed week 46
22 Nov 21 Confirmed build week 49.

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Post by Moog » Sat Nov 20, 2021 8:40 pm

I’m getting £2726 discount off my Family Pro Performance, plus the £2500 OZEV grant. I’m also financing at 2.9% (only half on finance, rest on cash/trade-in). The loss of the £1750 miffed me as it was pulled the day we had decided to place the order 🙄 but having already had to cancel my 1st Ed a year ago when I was made redundant I was determined to buy it now and didn’t want to wait again on the off chance it would be reinstated at some indeterminate point in the future. Only that basis I accepted the 30wk estimated delivery to get the spec I wanted, though given that timeframe & the strong used values I am seriously pondering buying a 20k-miler 1st Ed now for the interim & sell/trade when my new one is finally delivered!
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ID.3 Family Pro Performance (204ps/58kWh) in Makena Turquoise, 19” Andoya, Sport pack, Infotainment plus, bi-colour silver, & Bike Hitch.
Ordered 15 Nov 21 (wk46)
Order no 31551xxx received 15 Nov (wk46)
Estimated 30wks delivery so wk23 (6 June 22)?

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Post by Malcster » Sat Nov 20, 2021 8:46 pm

Do those who ordered with the discount and pre price increase still get it and the original price ??
Family pro
Derry alloys
Infotainment plus
Stonewashed
Order no 3150@@@@
Order date 17/10/2021
Build date
Delivery date

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Post by sausageroll » Sat Nov 20, 2021 8:49 pm

Malcster wrote:
Sat Nov 20, 2021 8:46 pm
Do those who ordered with the discount and pre price increase still get it and the original price ??
Yes - the deal is whatever you signed for.

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Post by Utumno » Sat Nov 20, 2021 8:55 pm

Cherry wrote:
Sat Nov 20, 2021 7:25 pm
monkeyhanger wrote:
Sat Nov 20, 2021 7:00 pm

They might've just done that- finance calculator states 4.9%, wasn't it about 6.2% previously?
It was 4.7% when I ordered.

So, the interest rate is now higher and price effectively £1750 higher.
DTD have not increased their discount, hence you can assume the car is now £1750 more expensive.
DTD even reduced their discount slightly after I ordered (I did not use DTD),

Anyone who thinks a dealer will make up the £1750 finance deposit is probably getting a lousy discount.
One should except c.8% dealer discount + £2500 off if EV grant can be claimed (plus in the old days £1750 finance deposit).
On a Family Pro you should be getting over £2300 dealer discount alone so £6550 off list with £1750 contribution or £4800 off list now if EV grant is included, if not more.

Too many people see to be buying at high CarWow prices. This keeps the dealer happy!

It would be interesting if the "spreadsheet" stated dealer name and price agreed, not that everyone would want to disclose this! :D
Yes I wasn’t meaning to suggest that the £1750 would be achieved just that dealers would discount as necessary. There’s clearly no need for VW to discount to sell ID.3’s, so discount will decide dealer or broker selection. Market forces, y’all.
ID.3 Tour 77kWh Pro S 204PS Tour in Manganese Grey (on order)
Delivery Info Tracker : https://tinyurl.com/id3tracker

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Post by Cherry » Sat Nov 20, 2021 9:25 pm

Utumno wrote:
Sat Nov 20, 2021 8:55 pm
Yes I wasn’t meaning to suggest that the £1750 would be achieved just that dealers would discount as necessary. There’s clearly no need for VW to discount to sell ID.3’s, so discount will decide dealer or broker selection. Market forces, y’all.

I have not seen any additional dealer discounts to compensate for a single pound of the £1750 loss.
All I have seen is even less discount from dealers, meaning even higher effective prices.

Good for those who purchased at low prices and want to sell!
9 Sep 21 Ordered ID.3 Family Pro in Stonewashed Blue & East Derry alloy wheels.
13 Sep 21 PCP approved and VW Order number provided 3131xxxx
24 Sep 21 Temporary build week 43, confirmed week 46
22 Nov 21 Confirmed build week 49.

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Post by Utumno » Sat Nov 20, 2021 9:49 pm

Cherry wrote:
Sat Nov 20, 2021 9:25 pm
Utumno wrote:
Sat Nov 20, 2021 8:55 pm
Yes I wasn’t meaning to suggest that the £1750 would be achieved just that dealers would discount as necessary. There’s clearly no need for VW to discount to sell ID.3’s, so discount will decide dealer or broker selection. Market forces, y’all.

I have not seen any additional dealer discounts to compensate for a single pound of the £1750 loss.
All I have seen is even less discount from dealers, meaning even higher effective prices.

Good for those who purchased at low prices and want to sell!

Yes, that’s kind of my point. Dealers will discount as necessary. It’s not necessary. So they’re not discounting.
ID.3 Tour 77kWh Pro S 204PS Tour in Manganese Grey (on order)
Delivery Info Tracker : https://tinyurl.com/id3tracker

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