Home charger cost effective or not?

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scott28tt wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:32 am
colonelpurple wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:05 am I suppose if you have a tesco near you, and have the working time during the day to make sure it doesn't go over the car park time limit, you could make a case for supermarket charging, but seems a big hassle to me for a small saving

The free chargers at Tesco are for customers while they're being customers, not freeloaders who decide not to get a home charger ;)
Hi scott,
What about those that can’t get a home charger?
I assume you are being complementary with the term ‘freeloaders’ to mean someone who financially astute in the same way as negotiating a good deal on a car or getting mats included
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Warminster id wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:16 am
scott28tt wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:32 am
colonelpurple wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:05 am I suppose if you have a tesco near you, and have the working time during the day to make sure it doesn't go over the car park time limit, you could make a case for supermarket charging, but seems a big hassle to me for a small saving

The free chargers at Tesco are for customers while they're being customers, not freeloaders who decide not to get a home charger ;)
Hi scott,
What about those that can’t get a home charger?
I assume you are being complementary with the term ‘freeloaders’ to mean someone who financially astute in the same way as negotiating a good deal on a car or getting mats included

I could have said "spongers" instead, as in those who take something for free without considering whether they should be using it or not, or who is paying for it.

Without a home charger, I would have considered whether the public infrastructure (ie. the parts of it genuinely made available for all EV owners, not just customers of specific venues) made it viable for me to run an EV.
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Freeloader: a person who takes advantage of others' generosity without giving anything in return.

Sponger: a person who lives at others' expense.


What is a person who uses free Tesco charging? Clearly, not a freeloader. If they shop at Tesco then they are not a sponger.
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Cherry wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:34 am Freeloader: a person who takes advantage of others' generosity without giving anything in return.

Sponger: a person who lives at others' expense.


What is a person who uses free Tesco charging? Clearly, not a freeloader. If they shop at Tesco then they are not a sponger.
Aren't you meant to only be using the Tesco chargers whilst you are actually spending money in the shop? I believe there was a thread about this previously which, rightly, mentioned about how much useful charge can you get from the time it takes to do a weekly shop? I know some people take ages in the store (my wife for one) whereas I want to get out as fast as possible. If this facility gets abused, In the opinion of Tesco, they will control it more strictly.
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Cherry wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:34 am Freeloader: a person who takes advantage of others' generosity without giving anything in return.

Sponger: a person who lives at others' expense.


What is a person who uses free Tesco charging? Clearly, not a freeloader. If they shop at Tesco then they are not a sponger.

If they're in Tesco while their car is charging - either shopping or maybe having a cuppa in the cafe - they are a customer.

If they're not in Tesco at the time, they're loading for free (hence "freeloader") and at someone else's expense (hence "sponger").
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scott28tt wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 12:12 pm
Cherry wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:34 am Freeloader: a person who takes advantage of others' generosity without giving anything in return.

Sponger: a person who lives at others' expense.


What is a person who uses free Tesco charging? Clearly, not a freeloader. If they shop at Tesco then they are not a sponger.

If they're in Tesco while their car is charging - either shopping or maybe having a cuppa in the cafe - they are a customer.

If they're not in Tesco at the time, they're loading for free (hence "freeloader") and at someone else's expense (hence "sponger").
Oh ok well I guess everyone ( including you) has been one or both at times.
So is there any need to single out one activity?
I know you are an intelligent and informed person so there’s no need to make derogatory comments about others.
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Warminster id wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:21 pm I know you are an intelligent and informed person so there’s no need to make derogatory comments about others.

My comment wasn't aimed at anybody in particular, I have a pet peeve for the use of free public chargers as if they were personal property.
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scott28tt wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:28 pm
Warminster id wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:21 pm I know you are an intelligent and informed person so there’s no need to make derogatory comments about others.

My comment wasn't aimed at anybody in particular, I have a pet peeve for the use of free public chargers as if they were personal property.
Ok no problem, I’ve never met anyone who feels a public charger is there own. I guess next time I plug in at Tesco and pop in for shopping I will keep an eye out for someone telling me it’s their charger lol.

I do like hearing others opinion and helpful tips, but some recent posts have been getting a little heavy so let’s keep it lighthearted and informative and respectful of others thoughts
(This comment is general and not aimed at anyone specific)

So let’s just enjoy this brilliant car weather you charge at home or in public
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Warminster id wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:42 pm Ok no problem, I’ve never met anyone who feels a public charger is there own.

I've read comments online from people who leave their car charging at the supermarket while they're at their office down the road for 8 hours, or while going for lunch at a restaurant, or plug in then walk or cycle home...
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scott28tt wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:04 pm
Warminster id wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:42 pm Ok no problem, I’ve never met anyone who feels a public charger is there own.

I've read comments online from people who leave their car charging at the supermarket while they're at their office down the road for 8 hours, or while going for lunch at a restaurant, or plug in then walk or cycle home...

Surely it wouldn't be difficult for them to program the Tesco charger to stop charging after a certain period of time? Maybe 1.5/2 hours? Then send a message to a clamping company!
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I can absolutely see some people getting 'possessive' about chargers in supermarkets, and claiming ownership of them when the store isn't open.
People are aggressive and psychotic about parking spaces in general already!

It occurred to me when I saw the Lidl/Aldi ones, which aren't open past 10pm, next to some houses. I full expect some psycho/tight people who live next to them that could have their own homecharger, but choose not to, making threats to people who dare use "their charger" out of open hours :D

One of the worst things about people is that there's a large proportion who will take advantage and full exhaust any gratuity that exists out there, and see any 'community' (or otherwise public) benefit as something to be claimed and monopolised, rather than used only where necessary. There's people by me who go so far as to claim they own parts of the road, and park huge motorhomes there instead of on their driveways, preventing guests and so on from using them (as was the intended design).

Not a great leap from the spiteful people who park in Parent & Child bays or Disabled bays they aren't eligible to use, or indeed EV bays with ICE cars.
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sausageroll wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:44 pm I can absolutely see some people getting 'possessive' about chargers in supermarkets, and claiming ownership of them when the store isn't open.
People are aggressive and psychotic about parking spaces in general already!

It occurred to me when I saw the Lidl/Aldi ones, which aren't open past 10pm, next to some houses. I full expect some psycho/tight people who live next to them that could have their own homecharger, but choose not to, making threats to people who dare use "their charger" out of open hours :D

One of the worst things about people is that there's a large proportion who will take advantage and full exhaust any gratuity that exists out there, and see any 'community' (or otherwise public) benefit as something to be claimed and monopolised, rather than used only where necessary. There's people by me who go so far as to claim they own parts of the road, and park huge motorhomes there instead of on their driveways, preventing guests and so on from using them (as was the intended design).

Not a great leap from the spiteful people who park in Parent & Child bays or Disabled bays they aren't eligible to use, or indeed EV bays with ICE cars.
These must be the same people Boris Johnson kept referring to when he said about the pandemic that “people were all doing the right thing.”
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Not normally one to comment on politics, but a similar thought crossed my mind 😂
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Scratch wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:25 pm
scott28tt wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:04 pm
Warminster id wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:42 pm Ok no problem, I’ve never met anyone who feels a public charger is there own.

I've read comments online from people who leave their car charging at the supermarket while they're at their office down the road for 8 hours, or while going for lunch at a restaurant, or plug in then walk or cycle home...

Surely it wouldn't be difficult for them to program the Tesco charger to stop charging after a certain period of time? Maybe 1.5/2 hours? Then send a message to a clamping company!
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Without starting a whole new thread (which may be here already !)

Charging after a set time appears to the way forward and might stop chargers being hogged all day.

Free chargers are an excellent incentive for shopping areas to attract customers, who will hopefully spend while cars are charging, though at 7kw (on average) you won’t get a large amount but in winter very useful to keep warm perhaps.

This same can be said for rapids, where some already charge for overstays but would be good to ensure free use of an asset that’s is currently in limited supply

I can imagine the furore if a person filled with petrol/diesel and left their car on the pump thereby denying the use to the next person !

Must say we have been fortunate and only met very considerate people using rapids and a good social event it turns out to be while either waiting for one to finish or if a pair as we both charge!
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