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Cherry
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Post by Cherry » Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:32 pm

What are the odds the Pro version will be discontinued soon given the price difference between Family Pro and Family Pro Performance is just £470 from Dec 1st? This is a big increase for the Pro.

List prices from DrivetheDeal as published today for 1st Dec 2021:

107KW Life Pro 58kWh 5dr Auto £31,805
150kW Life Pro Performance 58kWh 5dr Auto £33,125
Difference £ 1,320

107KW Family Pro 58kWh 5dr Auto £34,525
150kW Family Pro Performance 58kWh 5dr Auto £34,995
Difference £470 ---> Why now have a 107KW version?


Life Pro to Family Pro difference: £2,720
Life Pro Performance to Family Pro Performance difference: £1,870


150kW Max Pro Performance 58kWh 5dr Auto £38,615

These figures do not make a lot of sense!
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9 Sep 21 Ordered ID.3 Family Pro in Stonewashed Blue & East Derry alloy wheels.
13 Sep 21 PCP approved and VW Order number provided 3131xxxx
24 Sep 21 Temporary build week 43, confirmed week 46
22 Nov 21 Confirmed build week 49.

DickieBoy
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Post by DickieBoy » Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:52 pm

Have the new prices been released? They do have a decision to make around the two given how close the performance is to the grant cut off. Assume if you get the Family Pro Performance with options then you still currently get the grant. Or does it depend on what the options are?
Family Pro
Order Date: 20/11/21
Est Delivery Date: 30/06/22

Cherry
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Post by Cherry » Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:59 pm

DickieBoy wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:52 pm
Have the new prices been released? They do have a decision to make around the two given how close the performance is to the grant cut off. Assume if you get the Family Pro Performance with options then you still currently get the grant. Or does it depend on what the options are?
The prices are on DriveTheDeal, if they are correct. The difference between Life Pro and Life Pro Performance is large, but not Family Pro and Family Pro Performance.
I understand options are not included, it is just the base model list price that has to be no more than £35k. Hence the Family Pro Performance is below this limit to qualify for the EV grant of £2,500.
Last edited by Cherry on Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:05 pm, edited 1 time in total.
9 Sep 21 Ordered ID.3 Family Pro in Stonewashed Blue & East Derry alloy wheels.
13 Sep 21 PCP approved and VW Order number provided 3131xxxx
24 Sep 21 Temporary build week 43, confirmed week 46
22 Nov 21 Confirmed build week 49.

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Post by Utumno » Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:40 pm

DickieBoy wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:52 pm
Have the new prices been released? They do have a decision to make around the two given how close the performance is to the grant cut off. Assume if you get the Family Pro Performance with options then you still currently get the grant. Or does it depend on what the options are?

Options only affect the grant in certain cases, unlike with an ICE car (where the total inc options may tip you over the £40k penalty line). My current understanding is that you could load up any of the ID.3 models with as many options as you like and it won't affect their grant eligibility.
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Post by Utumno » Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:45 pm

Small aside on the DTD config page; it specifically mentions a 7 speaker sound system, plus a subwoofer on the "Infotainment Pack Plus".

That's new, right ? I didn't think any ID.3 had a factory fit subwoofer at all.

Granted it might be a DTD error!
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Post by sausageroll » Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:08 pm

Utumno wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:45 pm
Small aside on the DTD config page; it specifically mentions a 7 speaker sound system, plus a subwoofer on the "Infotainment Pack Plus".

That's new, right ? I didn't think any ID.3 had a factory fit subwoofer at all.

Granted it might be a DTD error!
Possibly an error on their part, as the update only mentions the ID4 so far

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Post by DickieBoy » Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:26 pm

Utumno wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:40 pm
DickieBoy wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:52 pm
Have the new prices been released? They do have a decision to make around the two given how close the performance is to the grant cut off. Assume if you get the Family Pro Performance with options then you still currently get the grant. Or does it depend on what the options are?

Options only affect the grant in certain cases, unlike with an ICE car (where the total inc options may tip you over the £40k penalty line). My current understanding is that you could load up any of the ID.3 models with as many options as you like and it won't affect their grant eligibility.
It does seem a bit strange that they aren't taken into account.
Family Pro
Order Date: 20/11/21
Est Delivery Date: 30/06/22

Cherry
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Post by Cherry » Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:36 pm

DickieBoy wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:26 pm


It does seem a bit strange that they aren't taken into account.
If I were VW I would find a way to make a Family Pro to a Family Pro Performance via an optional add on to allow them to increase the price as they wished and allow a grant to be claimed.

Effectively scrap Family Pro Performance and charge £x for the upgraded horse power to a Family Pro.
9 Sep 21 Ordered ID.3 Family Pro in Stonewashed Blue & East Derry alloy wheels.
13 Sep 21 PCP approved and VW Order number provided 3131xxxx
24 Sep 21 Temporary build week 43, confirmed week 46
22 Nov 21 Confirmed build week 49.

DickieBoy
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Post by DickieBoy » Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:36 pm

Cherry wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:32 pm
What are the odds the Pro version will be discontinued soon given the price difference between Family Pro and Family Pro Performance is just £470 from Dec 1st? This is a big increase for the Pro.

List prices from DrivetheDeal as published today for 1st Dec 2021:

107KW Life Pro 58kWh 5dr Auto £31,805
150kW Life Pro Performance 58kWh 5dr Auto £33,125
Difference £ 1,320

107KW Family Pro 58kWh 5dr Auto £34,525
150kW Family Pro Performance 58kWh 5dr Auto £34,995
Difference £470 ---> Why now have a 107KW version?


Life Pro to Family Pro difference: £2,720
Life Pro Performance to Family Pro Performance difference: £1,870


150kW Max Pro Performance 58kWh 5dr Auto £38,615

These figures do not make a lot of sense!
Interesting if correct. £1,320 is the current difference between the Pro and Pro Performance models so they have kept that the same for the Life. As you say they can't do that for the Family. I have just recently ordered a Family Pro. The extra power didn't really appeal but not sure what I would have done if it was only £470 extra.

Just doesn't seem right but guess we will find out soon enough.
Family Pro
Order Date: 20/11/21
Est Delivery Date: 30/06/22

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Post by DickieBoy » Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:41 pm

Cherry wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:36 pm
DickieBoy wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:26 pm


It does seem a bit strange that they aren't taken into account.
If I were VW I would find a way to make a Family Pro to a Family Pro Performance via an optional add on to allow them to increase the price as they wished and allow a grant to be claimed.

Effectively scrap Family Pro Performance and charge £x for the upgraded horse power to a Family Pro.
That's what I was thinking but wonder if that would be allowed. Adding alloy's/changing paint/speakers etc is one thing but changing the cars power seems a jump as an "option".
Family Pro
Order Date: 20/11/21
Est Delivery Date: 30/06/22

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