If you want the options that the Max has as standard though, and have to finance the car, the monthlies will be greatly effected by having nearly 5k of options on a Family.monkeyhanger wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:18 amThe Family Spec looks by far the best value in the range right now, due to it being oriced to slot just under the threshold.andrewparker wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:32 am £39500 for the Max! £42k for the spec I’ve ordered. Feels expensive at that price.
IMO, the extras on a max come at too high a price due to losing that grant.
Price increases.
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Quite. When I was weighing up financing and model selection earlier in the year the PCP prices coming back were basically a extra £20 a month for the Max vs the Family, all other things being equal, because of the stronger GFV on the Max.
For a cash-style buyer the Family is by far the strongest value but pay for it over PCP and the gap narrows.
Whichever way you spin it though, the Tour is pricey, but if you need the extra range, you need the extra range
For a cash-style buyer the Family is by far the strongest value but pay for it over PCP and the gap narrows.
Whichever way you spin it though, the Tour is pricey, but if you need the extra range, you need the extra range
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Does the government grant apply if options take it over the 35 k threshold??
I specced a family with infotainment pack and assistance plus pack with alloys and metallic paint
I specced a family with infotainment pack and assistance plus pack with alloys and metallic paint
Family pro
Derry alloys
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Stonewashed
Order no 3150@@@@
Order date 17/10/2021
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Delivery date
Derry alloys
Infotainment plus
Stonewashed
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Order date 17/10/2021
Build date
Delivery date
Yes, you still get the grant.
9 Sep 21 Ordered ID.3 Family Pro, Stonewashed Blue & East Derry
13 Sep 21 PCP approved. VW No: 3131xxxx
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22 Nov 21 Conf' build wk 49
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13 Sep 21 PCP approved. VW No: 3131xxxx
24 Sep 21 Temp build wk43, conf' 46
22 Nov 21 Conf' build wk 49
10 Jan 22 Code 38 Awaiting ship-release (wk48 build)
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Maybe I'm a bit tight! For me though, paying £40k for a modestly discounted Max with a few more toys vs a Family Pro Performance with optional alloys and netallic paint that can be had for £31310 (DTD), I'd forego those extra toys, the gap is just too big. Appreciate that for some on PCP where you're effectively financing the depreciation plus interest, so only covering zbout half the price gap, but even so I value performance over a few unnecessary toys, and the Max offers no additional performance.andrewparker wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 12:04 pmIf you want the options that the Max has as standard though, and have to finance the car, the monthlies will be greatly effected by having nearly 5k of options on a Family.monkeyhanger wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:18 amThe Family Spec looks by far the best value in the range right now, due to it being oriced to slot just under the threshold.andrewparker wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:32 am £39500 for the Max! £42k for the spec I’ve ordered. Feels expensive at that price.
IMO, the extras on a max come at too high a price due to losing that grant.
As long as I have Aircon, auto lights (LED all round), auto wipers, auto dimming rear view mirror, remote central locking, multifunction steering wheel, parking sensors decent alloys I'm mot really bothered about paying out for options, especially not £5k's worth.
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monkeyhanger wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:06 pmMaybe I'm a bit tight! For me though, paying £40k for a modestly discounted Max with a few more toys vs a Family Pro Performance with optional alloys and netallic paint that can be had for £31310 (DTD), I'd forego those extra toys, the gap is just too big. Appreciate that for some on PCP where you're effectively financing the depreciation plus interest, so only covering zbout half the price gap, but even so I value performance over a few unnecessary toys, and the Max offers no additional performance.andrewparker wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 12:04 pmIf you want the options that the Max has as standard though, and have to finance the car, the monthlies will be greatly effected by having nearly 5k of options on a Family.monkeyhanger wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:18 am
The Family Spec looks by far the best value in the range right now, due to it being oriced to slot just under the threshold.
IMO, the extras on a max come at too high a price due to losing that grant.
As long as I have Aircon, auto lights (LED all round), auto wipers, auto dimming rear view mirror, remote central locking, multifunction steering wheel, parking sensors decent alloys I'm mot really bothered about paying out for options, especially not £5k's worth.
I don’t think “tightness” has anything to do with it There’s a wide, wide range of parameters that you’ve perfectly sensibly pointed out for individual choice and use case on top of the pure financial
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Yeah, basically none of them are eligible. £32k limit and just £1500 grant.
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https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/latest ... ia-changed
The Plug-in Car Grant (PiCG), which had given consumers 35% off the purchase price of an EV up to a maximum of £2,500, has been cut by £1,000 to £1,500.
The eligibility criteria for the plug-in car grant has also changed. Cars with a recommended retail price (RRP) of £35,000 or less had been eligible, but that has now been reduced by £3,000 to £32,000 or less.
Life Pro MY23 with Interior Style Plus + Assistance Plus + Infotainment Plus
Just as a reminder, the grant typically applies to the base price, not the packages. So before the price rises in the UK that's
Under 32k
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Life Pure - 29580
Life Pro - 30880
Over 32k
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Pro performance - 32200
Family Pro - 33600
Family Pro Performance - 34920
Max - 37690
Under 32k
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Life Pure - 29580
Life Pro - 30880
Over 32k
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Pro performance - 32200
Family Pro - 33600
Family Pro Performance - 34920
Max - 37690
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They're not the current prices though. And they don't do the Pure anymore.mediaguy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:51 am Just as a reminder, the grant typically applies to the base price, not the packages. So before the price rises in the UK that's
Under 32k
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Life Pure - 29580
Life Pro - 30880
Over 32k
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Pro performance - 32200
Family Pro - 33600
Family Pro Performance - 34920
Max - 37690
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There is talk of adding it onto a system. Is that done at the order stage by the dealers or is it done at the completion date? If completion then I wonder what VW will do as they will have plenty of orders which they have sold on having a £2.5k discount that no longer fit the criteria.mediaguy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:51 am Just as a reminder, the grant typically applies to the base price, not the packages. So before the price rises in the UK that's
Under 32k
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Life Pure - 29580
Life Pro - 30880
Over 32k
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Pro performance - 32200
Family Pro - 33600
Family Pro Performance - 34920
Max - 37690
Family Pro owner (Sept 22)
Where did that come from? I just Googled this:mediaguy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:46 am https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/latest ... ia-changed
The Plug-in Car Grant (PiCG), which had given consumers 35% off the purchase price of an EV up to a maximum of £2,500, has been cut by £1,000 to £1,500.
The eligibility criteria for the plug-in car grant has also changed. Cars with a recommended retail price (RRP) of £35,000 or less had been eligible, but that has now been reduced by £3,000 to £32,000 or less.
https://www.gov.uk/plug-in-car-van-grants
What am I missing here?
Well either fleet news are looking for clicks or everyone else is yet to catch up with the overnight update.Scratch wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:14 amWhere did that come from? I just Googled this:mediaguy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:46 am https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/latest ... ia-changed
The Plug-in Car Grant (PiCG), which had given consumers 35% off the purchase price of an EV up to a maximum of £2,500, has been cut by £1,000 to £1,500.
The eligibility criteria for the plug-in car grant has also changed. Cars with a recommended retail price (RRP) of £35,000 or less had been eligible, but that has now been reduced by £3,000 to £32,000 or less.
https://www.gov.uk/plug-in-car-van-grants
What am I missing here?
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Here's the government announcement
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/gove ... ric-future
This obviously presumed that VW are mean and don't match the offers on the paperwork.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/gove ... ric-future
I realise that, but viewing the current prices are easy, they're on the website. 95% of people on the order spreadsheet purchased before December and might want to see if they hit under the new 32k mark.They're not the current prices though.
This obviously presumed that VW are mean and don't match the offers on the paperwork.
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I spoke to my dealer about the prospect of this when ordering and they assured me my exchange price was secured regardless of any changes in the grant. It's also the price on the contract I signed so I hope I'm clear ok on this.
The fleetnews article above says that ozev said "It says that it will allow dealers or vehicle manufacturers to claim for any orders that were placed by customers in the seven consecutive days before the grant rate change which were not logged on the portal. This means that any orders placed by customers between 12.01am on December 8 and 11.59pm on December 14, before the grants rate changed that had not yet been logged on the portal, will be paid at previous rates and eligibility criteria."
Unless Govt have a funny definition of when a customer order is 'placed' then that would seem like good news because it implies the changes only apply to new orders from today forward. However, I can't see anywhere on gov.uk that says the above myself, only the fleetnews article.
The fleetnews article above says that ozev said "It says that it will allow dealers or vehicle manufacturers to claim for any orders that were placed by customers in the seven consecutive days before the grant rate change which were not logged on the portal. This means that any orders placed by customers between 12.01am on December 8 and 11.59pm on December 14, before the grants rate changed that had not yet been logged on the portal, will be paid at previous rates and eligibility criteria."
Unless Govt have a funny definition of when a customer order is 'placed' then that would seem like good news because it implies the changes only apply to new orders from today forward. However, I can't see anywhere on gov.uk that says the above myself, only the fleetnews article.
ID.3 Family Pro Performance (Jan 22), Makena Turquoise / East Derry alloys. Ohme Home Pro charger.