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Splitty
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Interesting article in the Telegraph on Friday as usual painting some of the negative aspects of EV ownership.

As a consequence of the charging subsidy ending one installer was quoted as saying:

"Not only will installing EV home chargers become more expensive, charge point installer Simon Bedson said: “It will result in unsafe installations. People will just get their normal electricians, who don’t have specialist knowledge, to install them. "

Qualified electricians are more than capable of installing a charge point, it's not rocket science. Plus they have to certify it complies with building regs so I can I would think that home chargers might become less expensive (probably by £350 in a lot of cases) as there will be more competition and less artificially inflated prices.

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Most chargers are c. £500 (Inc VAT) and upwards at trade outlets - and given my own install which was quite easy - I can’t see them shaving off £350… by my reckoning there was £30-40 wire - a smaller second main board (£100?) and 2 hours of electricians time.

You might save £50-100 on the Labour - possibly. So any changes will have to come partly from the charge point manufacturers.

Plus there is some special EV test gear iirc - a box they plug in to make sure it’s all working fine. I expect most electricians don’t have one of those…
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Splitty wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:42 pm Interesting article in the Telegraph on Friday as usual painting some of the negative aspects of EV ownership.

As a consequence of the charging subsidy ending one installer was quoted as saying:

"Not only will installing EV home chargers become more expensive, charge point installer Simon Bedson said: “It will result in unsafe installations. People will just get their normal electricians, who don’t have specialist knowledge, to install them. "

Qualified electricians are more than capable of installing a charge point, it's not rocket science. Plus they have to certify it complies with building regs so I can I would think that home chargers might become less expensive (probably by £350 in a lot of cases) as there will be more competition and less artificially inflated prices.
Most qualified electricians can make a charge point work, but they won’t have the expensive testing machines necessary to get or submit a Part P certificate on the work done. Specialist installers will have to compete with non-specialist installers, and cheapskate homeowners will decide what’s right for them, unfortunately.

Meant to add that I think there may be a subcontract market possible here; local sparky does everything except the testing and Part P, then subcontracts the certs to a specialist testing organisation for the Part P certs and submission. Not at all unusual in the trade.
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lol specialist installers.. I'll take the time served electrician over the 'One trick specialist' anytime. A Megger EV Tester is just an expense, (no more than £1500) the electrician has all the necessary know how if he's up to date, and if he's not you won't be getting a certificate for anything he does.
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The lesson there is don’t bother reading The Telegraph ….
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OB1CCFC wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:47 pm The lesson there is don’t bother reading The Telegraph ….
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This seems to be a trend in several countries. France is also planning on reducing subsidies (eco bonus) for buying electric. It has postponed twice. However as several manufacturers increase their prices, several will exceed the level to get the eco-bonus. This morning I saw that Tesla had increased the price for the base model. This is the second increase in as many months. The price is now above the 45000 euros limit. So not possible to get the 6000 euros eco bonus.
So far the tax rebate of 300 Euros for home charger installation still stands.

I wonder if the current sharp increase of petrol and diesel and the subsidies the governments are having to fork out will make them reinstate subsidies for EV?
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I looked into doing a part P on-line course. I found someone offering a course and the exam for £210. I might go ahead then I can do my own electrical work again. I gather that the exam is multiple choice and has a 60% pass mark. I hate to think what gets installed by those who just scrape a pass. It's the £1.4K for a tester capable of earth loop impedance testing that will hurt. I wonder if they are available second hand and how much it costs to get the calibration checked.
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