How many seats ID.3 Tour Pro S 77kWh (Oct '22 build) ?

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pmcg
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Post by pmcg »

I'm usually quite sharp but have to admit I'm confused about this. :oops:

If I understand it correct the first 2021 MY ones with the 77kWh battery were only 4 seats.

This "may" have been changed though for 2022 MY and switched to 3 seats in the rear so 5 seats.

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Post by sidehaas »

I thought all UK Tours remained 4 seats spec. In some countries a 5 seat option with reduced other tech was made available but I don't think it's ever been sold in UK.
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Post by pmcg »

Thanks, that's a bit of a bummer, thought we were being smart ordering the 77kWh but with kids always in the car that missing seat will be a problem. :(
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Post by MattBCL »

It’s down to the weight / allowable payload due to the extra battery weight, I think. They had to cut a seat to keep the potential payload low and keep it under a certain threshold - hence no glass roof either.
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Post by cornbutter »

MattBCL wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:12 pm It’s down to the weight / allowable payload due to the extra battery weight, I think. They had to cut a seat to keep the potential payload low and keep it under a certain threshold - hence no glass roof either.
I don't think this is true. My Tour 5 has the 77kWh battery with 3 seats in the rear. The only difference between the Tour and the Tour 5 is primarily very small components that wouldn't really add much to the weight, things like the HUD, a set of speakers in the rear and the two climate zone. Those components wouldn't weigh a large amount to be the equivalent of a 5th seat.
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Post by MotMot »

Mine - delivered 3 weeks ago? Has two in the back.
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Post by pmcg »

MotMot wrote: Sun Jul 03, 2022 1:41 am Mine - delivered 3 weeks ago? Has two in the back.
Thanks.

May see if we can switch to the smaller battery, glad I did some checking as would have bene mighty miffed to have received a 4 seater without anyone having mentioned it.
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Post by Bengeo »

cornbutter wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:30 pm I don't think this is true. My Tour 5 has the 77kWh battery with 3 seats in the rear. The only difference between the Tour and the Tour 5 is primarily very small components that wouldn't really add much to the weight, things like the HUD, a set of speakers in the rear and the two climate zone. Those components wouldn't weigh a large amount to be the equivalent of a 5th seat.
Has the Tour 5 got electric seats? If not, they must make a difference?
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Post by phixion »

Mine has 2 seats in the back. Not a problem for me though because I only carry 2-4 people max.
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Post by Timbo »

Had mine for about a month now, and it came with 4 seats
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Post by baguette »

Bengeo wrote: Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:55 am Has the Tour 5 got electric seats? If not, they must make a difference?

Nope, mechanical.
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Post by cornbutter »

Yeah they're not electric chairs. One other thing that I forgot about that would probably reduce the weight a bit between them is the soundproofing on the windscreen. The Tour 5 doesn't have that.

The difference between the two configurations is 6kg with the Tour 5 being the lighter of the two.

https://insideevs.com/news/492441/volks ... r-5-seats/

The Cupra Borne 77kWh version is 10kg higher than the Tour as well. So there technically even more head room in both configurations.

I could imagine them wanting to reduce weight, but with 6kg difference, if they wanted to they could add some of the missing features of they really wanted it. So I presume they wanted to be able to keep the price as low as it is. I think the Tour 5 is costing me something like €42k after the grant and the Tour would have cost a little over €45k.
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Post by pmcg »

Confirmed today that the Tour Pro S is only a 4 seater.
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Post by alex1337 »

I had a Life Pro Performance on order but the deal Plan offered on the Tour was considerably less a month so I snapped it up. I couldn't remember the last time I used all 5 seats in my current Golf so figured I could lose a seat for the extra gadgets
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Post by pmcg »

alex1337 wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:12 am I had a Life Pro Performance on order but the deal Plan offered on the Tour was considerably less a month so I snapped it up. I couldn't remember the last time I used all 5 seats in my current Golf so figured I could lose a seat for the extra gadgets
Would certainly have the Tour Pro over the Life but the Max Pro Performance looks a better option for me.
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Post by alex1337 »

I would've been happy with a Max but I couldn't live with cheap wheel trims and Plan didn't have any with alloys. At least the tour comes with them as standard
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Post by cornbutter »

Why would you order a Max with cheap wheels? Surely if you're going for a Max in the first place you're going balls to the wall?
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Post by pmcg »

cornbutter wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:44 am Why would you order a Max with cheap wheels? Surely if you're going for a Max in the first place you're going balls to the wall?
It's standard with the Steel Wheels so may be all that's on offer depending who is supplying.

I've got alloys on all my current cars but to be honest depending on who is driving a car could make a difference to wheel preference. My wife would never notice the difference.

If it's on a lease too then for handing back you don't have the dinked alloy problem.
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Post by cornbutter »

I suppose you could change the hubcaps on the steel wheels and it wouldn't look so bad. I think the default hub caps look awful on the ID3, maybe it's because it shows so much of the steel underneath. Whatever it is I'm not a fan of it.
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Post by pmcg »

Just changed one of our Tour Pro S orders to a Max Pro Perfromance.
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