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MattgID3
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Post by MattgID3 » Sun Jul 31, 2022 3:48 pm

so in a few days i hit the 12 month since ordering and my estimated delivery is november so still a few months to go.
i was wondering if anyone else has also hit the unfortunate 12 month wait for thier ID3 yet?
Id3 family pro
Stonewash blue
Ordered 8/8/21
Eta 8th Nov 2022

Location South Gloucestershire

Jimmybones100
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Post by Jimmybones100 » Sun Jul 31, 2022 4:02 pm

Mine was 10 and half months and now it’s 1 month since I got my iD3 tour pro,hope you yours soon mate .

Tom_1985
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Post by Tom_1985 » Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:37 pm

Yup, 12 months on wed, estimated build of week 38 if all stays on track,

Can’t say I’m hopeful

Bubba82
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Post by Bubba82 » Sun Jul 31, 2022 7:56 pm

I still follow this now and then…I would have been 12 months plus and I think it’s a pro 150bhp issue like the max and tour’s that were slow in coming through recently?? Just to add salt to the wounds my C40 that I ordered in March is currently scheduled to be on the drive before my ID3 was scheduled to be built that I ordered last September!!
ID3 family pro in Turquoise with east Derry alloys
Ordered 21/9/2021…..Cancelled 19/3/2022
Was order No 31477
Original Confirmed build week 51 2021
Build week cancelled due to MY update
New build week of 35,36 now 40 2022 status 10
Delivery not now

slef2003
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Location: Norfolk

Post by slef2003 » Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:32 am

Will be in the 12 month club in 19 days! I have a provisional build date of week 36 which is next month but I will believe it when I actually see and touch it lol. I am hoping that it is not one that has been partially built as I prefer the new seat coverings
20.08.21 Order Tour Pro S Bog Standard Robinsons VW Lowestoft
Order Number 31435***
12.01.22 Given Build date of Week 14
16.02.22 Given Build date of Week 37
29.05.22 Given Build date of Week 34
02.07.22 Given Build date of Week 36!

s9bl
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Post by s9bl » Mon Aug 01, 2022 1:25 pm

Will be in the 12 month club in 4 days...
Max, Manganese, East Derrys, ordered 5th Aug 2021
31404xxx
Original estimate build week 45 2021
Current estimate build week - none

Jamie1c
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Post by Jamie1c » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:53 pm

I'm nearing the club. Where's the cake at? 😁
Max pro (white)
East Derry wheels
Ordered the 20th of August 2021
Dealership- Arnold Clark
I have no order number, unfortunately.
Status 10 (14/02/22)

Bubba82
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Post by Bubba82 » Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:16 pm

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Seen this!
ID3 family pro in Turquoise with east Derry alloys
Ordered 21/9/2021…..Cancelled 19/3/2022
Was order No 31477
Original Confirmed build week 51 2021
Build week cancelled due to MY update
New build week of 35,36 now 40 2022 status 10
Delivery not now

Bubba82
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Joined: Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:39 pm

Post by Bubba82 » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:35 pm

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Also this, looks like no grant now for the 12 months + people, really feel for you guys if its all true at either paying more or cancelling after waiting 12 months already,

I said this will happen months ago when I cancelled for the C40 (due next month) as the government won’t give money away and VW can sell the car to the next customer
ID3 family pro in Turquoise with east Derry alloys
Ordered 21/9/2021…..Cancelled 19/3/2022
Was order No 31477
Original Confirmed build week 51 2021
Build week cancelled due to MY update
New build week of 35,36 now 40 2022 status 10
Delivery not now

Joule58kW
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Location: South Manchester

Post by Joule58kW » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:56 pm

I take it that when you lease a vehicle you are not the legal owner and therefore non payment of a grant is the responsibility of the leasing company?
Life Pro Performance 58kW Makena Turquoise. Leased through DriveElectric. Order date 9/11/21 Order number 31539xxx

Repfigit
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Post by Repfigit » Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:49 pm

It seems unlikely that the grant will be extended. The purpose of the grants was to encourage people to buy EVs, to help get early adoption going. No one needs to be encouraged to buy an EV now. From the government's perspective, it doesn't matter if the original buyer can't afford or doesn't want the car now, as it'll just go to someone else instead. With the grant being gone now for new orders, there's no real risk of the policy failing (i.e. discouraging EV adoption) as the market has already adjusted to the incentives being gone.

While other countries might still decide to provide subsidies, the truth is that giving people a few grand when it'll make no difference to policy outcomes isn't really a good use of government money during an inflation crisis. The extra £2.5k an owner might now need to put into the car means another £2.5k that won't be sloshing around the economy bidding up other prices. Extending it by a few months seemed sensible as an initial response but the Treasury will not be keen on extending it forever. Also, with inflation being as it is, hasn't the value of the car probably increased by the grant amount anyway? If inflation is 10%, then after 12 months a £30k car turns into a £33k car. If you paid in full back when you ordered, then you might have a real complaint, but anyone who just put down a deposit with full payment on delivery is no worse off financially.

If you were going to structure an EV incentive now, you'd actually take the opportunity to add new, hefty taxes to vehicle classes which are viable as EVs. There's no good reason for someone to buy an S-Class when the EQS exists. Looking at the long term, the crossover point for EV affordability is really low. A Corsa-e will be cheaper to finance and run than a petrol one now for most people. There may be certain people for whom an EV just won't work, but all you'd need is to keep a reasonable range of basic-ish ICE cars (up to Tiguan size) in the lower tax band as no one can really claim anything more would be essential.
ID.3 Family Pro - 145PS, 58kWh
Kings Red - Assistance Pack Plus - Heat pump
Ordered 8th December 2021

Klaus
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Post by Klaus » Mon Aug 08, 2022 6:54 am

I received the following email from my dealer when I asked why I have lost the grant despite not hitting the 12 month period since ordering

"The government are only honouring the grants for orders placed before 09/08/2021"

I don't think it's phased correctly as it doesn't make sense. How can a customer be offered something that doesn't exist at the time of ordering?
Family Pro, Stonewashed Blue, East Derry Alloys
ID3 ordered 30 Sep 2021
Order no 314846**
Build week 50 (2021) -delayed to build week 44 (2022) (Heritage Bristol)

the.kes
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Location: Peak District

Post by the.kes » Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:35 am

Klaus wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 6:54 am
I received the following email from my dealer when I asked why I have lost the grant despite not hitting the 12 month period since ordering

"The government are only honouring the grants for orders placed before 09/08/2021"

I don't think it's phased correctly as it doesn't make sense. How can a customer be offered something that doesn't exist at the time of ordering?
Did the dealer initiate the conversation about the withdrawal or was it a response to question from you? I ask because I ordered on the 16th September and have heard nothing to say that the grant has been withdrawn in those circumstances, my order form also includes the £2.5k in the price calculations. Because my scheduled build week is only three weeks before the first anniversary, they did suggest that as soon as they know the car is on a ship, they would register the car so I would get the grant. Losing the grant effectively increases the cost of the car by around 7%, not an insignificant amount.
Family Pro-Performance, Manganese Grey, East Derry alloys.
Commission 3147***
Ordered 16/09/2021
Status 10 Build week 20/2022, 17/2022, 22/2022, 27/2022, 38/2022 - (also known as one year since ordered). 40/2022,
Status 20 for 34/2022

DickieBoy
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Post by DickieBoy » Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:41 am

Klaus wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 6:54 am
I received the following email from my dealer when I asked why I have lost the grant despite not hitting the 12 month period since ordering

"The government are only honouring the grants for orders placed before 09/08/2021"

I don't think it's phased correctly as it doesn't make sense. How can a customer be offered something that doesn't exist at the time of ordering?
Yeah if anything it would be after that date given it's the 12 month point.
Family Pro
Order Date: 20/11/21
Provisional Build Date: Wk21 (23/05/22)
Car built: 18/07/22
Car delivered: ?

the.kes
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Post by the.kes » Mon Aug 08, 2022 3:56 pm

I think that dealer is in a world of their own, when the criteria was changed about the maximum price per vehicle and the amount of the grant changing (earlier this year?), it specifically mentioned that it did not affect orders made in the previous couple of days but still to be registered with the Govt portal.
My Govt Grant is listed as a Dealer Accessory along with registration fee etc and my dealer has assured me that "all previous deposit contributions and govt grant are honoured" and that was in response to a direct question about order to delivery potentially taking over 12 months.
There is a huge shitstorm brewing on the very near horizon.
Family Pro-Performance, Manganese Grey, East Derry alloys.
Commission 3147***
Ordered 16/09/2021
Status 10 Build week 20/2022, 17/2022, 22/2022, 27/2022, 38/2022 - (also known as one year since ordered). 40/2022,
Status 20 for 34/2022

Klaus
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Post by Klaus » Mon Aug 08, 2022 5:29 pm

the.kes wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:35 am
Klaus wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 6:54 am
I received the following email from my dealer when I asked why I have lost the grant despite not hitting the 12 month period since ordering

"The government are only honouring the grants for orders placed before 09/08/2021"

I don't think it's phased correctly as it doesn't make sense. How can a customer be offered something that doesn't exist at the time of ordering?
Did the dealer initiate the conversation about the withdrawal or was it a response to question from you? I ask because I ordered on the 16th September and have heard nothing to say that the grant has been withdrawn in those circumstances, my order form also includes the £2.5k in the price calculations. Because my scheduled build week is only three weeks before the first anniversary, they did suggest that as soon as they know the car is on a ship, they would register the car so I would get the grant. Losing the grant effectively increases the cost of the car by around 7%, not an insignificant amount.
No. Out of the blue they emailed me to say I have lost the grant. As I ordered in Sep 2021, I replied asking whether this meant it will be delivered after that date and their response was the one above. Puzzling...

Im sticking with it. The car is on a PCP so I don't think they'd benefit from pocketing the grant and lying to me to increase my monthly payments
Family Pro, Stonewashed Blue, East Derry Alloys
ID3 ordered 30 Sep 2021
Order no 314846**
Build week 50 (2021) -delayed to build week 44 (2022) (Heritage Bristol)

Kwr68
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Post by Kwr68 » Mon Aug 08, 2022 6:57 pm

Klaus wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 6:54 am
I received the following email from my dealer when I asked why I have lost the grant despite not hitting the 12 month period since ordering

"The government are only honouring the grants for orders placed before 09/08/2021"

I don't think it's phased correctly as it doesn't make sense. How can a customer be offered something that doesn't exist at the time of ordering?
This I don’t understand I ordered 8-10-21 well after this cut off date you were told I now have my car the price and grant were honoured. Also the grant made all the difference to me made it much more affordable
When I thought I might go over 12 months I did go whether to contact my local mp tv watchdog (bbc ) which magazine national newspaper or anybody who would listen.

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