ROAD TRIP! Taking the ID.3 to central Italy

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Andreas
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Post by Andreas » Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:15 pm

Well, after a last-minute SNAFU with the Green Card (thanks, Brexit), instead of leaving today I am leaving Monday, from when the EU no longer requires British vehicles to carry it (thank you EU for abolishing a system only slightly less archaic than the Droit de Seigneur I guess).

I'll post updates and some pictures here when I get to it. Leaving home 6am, route is now settled Eurotunnel, Autoroute des Anglais, A31, Nancy, Colmar, cross the border at Basel, cross the border at Como, Milan, Piacenza, Forli and then into the hills of central Italy. Total trip length ca. 1,100 miles, one overnight stop. Three charges on the first day, arriving with 25% at hotel, overnight trickle charge at hotel (pre-arranged), three charges on the second day, arriving with 25% at the destination.

Wish me luck.

It's going to be epic either way.

All the best

Andreas
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Post by MotMot » Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:33 pm

Enjoy! Sounds like a great trip! Looking forward to hearing how easy or complicated the charging is in other countries!

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Post by Gr4ndp4 » Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:10 pm

Have a good trip, you might enjoy watching
Cheers
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Post by Daveion » Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:16 pm

Andreas wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:15 pm
Well, after a last-minute SNAFU with the Green Card (thanks, Brexit), instead of leaving today I am leaving Monday, from when the EU no longer requires British vehicles to carry it (thank you EU for abolishing a system only slightly less archaic than the Droit de Seigneur I guess).

I'll post updates and some pictures here when I get to it. Leaving home 6am, route is now settled Eurotunnel, Autoroute des Anglais, A31, Nancy, Colmar, cross the border at Basel, cross the border at Como, Milan, Piacenza, Forli and then into the hills of central Italy. Total trip length ca. 1,100 miles, one overnight stop. Three charges on the first day, arriving with 25% at hotel, overnight trickle charge at hotel (pre-arranged), three charges on the second day, arriving with 25% at the destination.

Wish me luck.

It's going to be epic either way.

All the best

Andreas
Envious. We have cancelled a vacation to Croatia twice, Majorca once. Have a great road trip 😊
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Post by Andreas » Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:58 pm

Gr4ndp4 wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:10 pm
Have a good trip, you might enjoy watching
Cheers
Yeah I watched that. I hope my experience will be better than that! :mrgreen:

All the best

Andreas
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Post by Andreas » Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:59 pm

Daveion wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:16 pm
Andreas wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:15 pm
Well, after a last-minute SNAFU with the Green Card (thanks, Brexit), instead of leaving today I am leaving Monday, from when the EU no longer requires British vehicles to carry it (thank you EU for abolishing a system only slightly less archaic than the Droit de Seigneur I guess).

I'll post updates and some pictures here when I get to it. Leaving home 6am, route is now settled Eurotunnel, Autoroute des Anglais, A31, Nancy, Colmar, cross the border at Basel, cross the border at Como, Milan, Piacenza, Forli and then into the hills of central Italy. Total trip length ca. 1,100 miles, one overnight stop. Three charges on the first day, arriving with 25% at hotel, overnight trickle charge at hotel (pre-arranged), three charges on the second day, arriving with 25% at the destination.

Wish me luck.

It's going to be epic either way.

All the best

Andreas
Envious. We have cancelled a vacation to Croatia twice, Majorca once. Have a great road trip 😊
We wouldn't be doing it if there wasn't family on the other hand, so no issues with 5-days isolation, sorting out tests, etc. But the kids need to see the grandparents again and vice versa, so off we go!

All the best

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Post by JonS » Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:32 pm

Have a great trip and really interested too great how it goes…. I’m planning a trip to Sicily when the pandemic is done, via Le Havre, Dijon, Stresa and ferry from Civitavecchia so similar and would be great to hear how your trip works! Have fun

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Post by Andreas » Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:46 pm

Car is now loaded up, ca. 45kg in the boot, and ca. 120kg of humans in the front, for ca. 165kg total. I managed to get in a large Samsonite wheelie, and two carryons, as well as odds and sods, after removing fake floor. With more care a third carry-on would have been possible. Boot cover is in place. Granny charger wedged in the side pocked for access, Type 2 cable between the wheels of the Samsonite.

Planned charging locations at Ionity Rely (ca. 150 miles), Ionity Vrigny outside Reims (161 miles - but this one sucks, because you have to travel 20-odd km in the wrong direction and then turn back), and Ionity Haut Koenigsburg (210 miles, if needed as I suspect it will be), as final destination and trickle charge is only 34 miles from there.

All the best

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Post by Utumno » Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:04 pm

Andreas wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:46 pm
Car is now loaded up, ca. 45kg in the boot, and ca. 120kg of humans in the front, for ca. 165kg total. I managed to get in a large Samsonite wheelie, and two carryons, as well as odds and sods, after removing fake floor. With more care a third carry-on would have been possible. Boot cover is in place. Granny charger wedged in the side pocked for access, Type 2 cable between the wheels of the Samsonite.

Planned charging locations at Ionity Rely (ca. 150 miles), Ionity Vrigny outside Reims (161 miles - but this one sucks, because you have to travel 20-odd km in the wrong direction and then turn back), and Ionity Haut Koenigsburg (210 miles, if needed as I suspect it will be), as final destination and trickle charge is only 34 miles from there.

All the best

Andreas

Have fun! Looking forward to hearing how you get on!
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Post by Andreas » Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:34 am

Well here we go.

Day 1:

Started ten mins late at 0610 little traffic, reached Chunnel at 0725, but due to border control jammed only just got on the 0818. Note to self, use the toilet before getting on the train, as COVID has closed them. Even the sea gulls were bored.

From London to the terminal 68 miles at 3.3mi/kW, not great,, given speed average 45 miles, top speed 73 (overtaking). Need to work on that. One thing to note is that adaptive cruise control creating some issues when it does pick up the wrong speed limit, but the driving experience overall is something else entirely. Relaxed, car doing a lot of things you would have done yourself in the previous cars I owned, and you get to rely on it quite quickly (e.g. auto brake, distance keeping). In France quickly reached Ionity Aire de Rely (picture), and charged up to 77% (this was a mistake). I then decided to chance it with the Reims Sud BP charger rather than the planned Ionity Aire de Vrigny - this would ultimately cost me three hours. Consumption on the next leg again higher than expected, but no matter, there are tons of chargers around Reims, right? Right...

I got to Reims Sud with 120km left, and it was broken. Of course it was. The ten Tesla super chargers next to it worked, and I now know Tesla envy. Well never mind, there is a bridge to Reims Nord and you can just use that one and... oh, you cannot turn right once over the bridge, so you cannot reach the charger. So.... back across the bridge, drive south 15km or so using hypermiling technique (stick behind a truck or caravan, maximize recovery, turn around (all a bit of a pain because of Péage), to Reims Nord. Get there, charger obvs working, a Leaf is on it with a nice young lady. Chit-chat and she takes 20 minutes to fill up to 94%. She then takes another 15 minutes before vacating the spot while sorting out music, directions, waiting for her friend. Finally, charger is free. Connect and! "There is an internal charger error. Please press this button..." Well... pressed the button. "There is an internal charger error, the maintenance team has been alerted. Well... I used to live in France, and I know I am screwed now. Rapid calculations, and I should be able to get Ionity Gueux, although the car is tutting that I should really charge it as range has dropped below 100km. Lessons learned:

1) If you pass close to an Ionity, use it.
2) See 1)
3) If you rely on any non-Ionity charger in France, make sure you have enough juice to make it to the next Ionity charger.
4) See 3)
4) Ionity chargers look sleek, the app is fancy, and they work, every time. Other chargers look like something the mad professor from Back to the Future built, they are banged up, lord knows if they even have an app, and they are broken. It is known. This is the law, and this is now my France EV charging rule to live by.
5) Don't go faster than 130km/h - your efficiency drops like a stone.

After Gueux I had to go 15km west before turning back east. At Gueux I charged to 80% (after a charger disconnect at 43% that fixed itself, could have been me monkeying about with the keys) and then charged again on the opposite side at Ionity Vrigny, just to be sure. ABRP then gave me a direct route to Haut Koenigsburg Ionity, but it looked dicy. I spurned that, having learned my lesson, and went to Ionity Hauconcourt instead, adding more time. On getting there out of seven potential chargers only five had been installed and one of these was permanently non-op. There were ten or 12 Tesla superchargers in the car park, they were empty. The four operational Ionity's had a queue of three, to which I added myself. Another nice chat with a lady from Luxembourg who promised to guard my queue place while I took my daughter to the toilet. One Niro driver from Holland gave up the wait and disappeared, and an e-Tron was added. Occupied by two Niros and two Panameras (Luxembourg is rich). After a 20 minute wait we got there, and this time I charged to 100%.

On to Haut Koenigsburg, with a traffic jam to start, and then the scenic route for a while. No issues, Ionity Haut Koenigsburg worked like a dream (picture). Did I mention that Ionity rocks? Charged up to 70ish percent and off to the hotel where we arrived at 10pm, instead as optimistically planned 1730ish (pressimistically 1930ish). As we were so late their technician had gone home, so no trickle charge.

Day 1 data:
- 91kmh average,
- 962km total
- 10h26 driving
- 5.2km/kWh average
- started day at 97%
- ended day at 59%

Used air con a fair bit (still trying to get it to a comfortable temperature setting), CarPlay, music.

Charges (all Ionity with UKP7.99 WeCharge subscription pack):
Aire de Rely - 27.94kWh/30mins/EUR9.26
Aire de Guex 1 25.96kWh/12mins/EUR3.84
Aire de Gueux 2 27.59kWh/20mins/EUR6.16
Aire de Vrigny 11.74kWh/14mins/EUR4.42
Hauconcourt 52.32kWh/40min/EUR12.26
Aire de Haut Koenigsburg 23.7kWh/19mins/EUR5.84
Total 169.25kWh charged and 29.26kWh battery run down day start/day end for a total of 198.51kWh.
Total time 2h15 on chargers
Total cost EUR41.78

Bottom-lines:

1) The car rocks. I have never had a more relaxed drive in my live, even when a chauffeur drove me to Gatwick in a huge Merc.
2) Spending 10 hours in the ID.3 is like spending ten hours in front of your computer but with the bonus of landscape flying by. There are hardly any vibrations, your mind is occupied with all the data. It's brilliant.
3) The ACC takes a huge load out of driving. Really happy with it.
4) Ionity.

Day 2 to follow. Just a note that it was a considerable improvement in every aspect.

All the best

Andreas

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