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Motability and Handcontrols

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:21 am
by DumfriesDik
Reaching out to anyone who uses a push/pull mechanical hand control and would also love to hear from anyone who uses electronic Guidosimplex hand controls. I am particularly interested in users of the 2015A handcontrol.

I am posting this on other forums, sorry if you have seen it elsewhere. Many thanks.

Re: Motability and Handcontrols

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 4:41 pm
by StuartT
Hello there, I use Ergo push/pull mechanical controls. When I ordered the car, in April, I asked for an indicator switch on the hand controls, but when they came to fit them, in August, they said that it wasn't possible to fit an indicator switch. I said okay and would they let me know when it would be possible; they updated me a few weeks ago to say that it's still not possible. They were blaming VW for the delay, saying VW hadn't released the necessary wiring diagram.
Early-adopters problems is the phrase, I believe!
As for the Guidosimplex controls, I'm sorry but I can't help you out there.

Re: Motability and Handcontrols

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:14 am
by DumfriesDik
StuartT wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 4:41 pm Hello there, I use Ergo push/pull mechanical controls. When I ordered the car, in April, I asked for an indicator switch on the hand controls, but when they came to fit them, in August, they said that it wasn't possible to fit an indicator switch. I said okay and would they let me know when it would be possible; they updated me a few weeks ago to say that it's still not possible. They were blaming VW for the delay, saying VW hadn't released the necessary wiring diagram.
Early-adopters problems is the phrase, I believe!
As for the Guidosimplex controls, I'm sorry but I can't help you out there.
Thanks for that Stuart. I am leaning towards mechanical hand controls and not engage anything to do with the cars electrics.

I hope you're enjoying the car.

Re: Motability and Handcontrols

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:44 pm
by StuartT
DumfriesDik wrote: Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:14 am
StuartT wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 4:41 pm Hello there, I use Ergo push/pull mechanical controls. When I ordered the car, in April, I asked for an indicator switch on the hand controls, but when they came to fit them, in August, they said that it wasn't possible to fit an indicator switch. I said okay and would they let me know when it would be possible; they updated me a few weeks ago to say that it's still not possible. They were blaming VW for the delay, saying VW hadn't released the necessary wiring diagram.
Early-adopters problems is the phrase, I believe!
As for the Guidosimplex controls, I'm sorry but I can't help you out there.
Thanks for that Stuart. I am leaning towards mechanical hand controls and not engage anything to do with the cars electrics.

I hope you're enjoying the car.

If they're all you need, just having hand controls is a smart move!
As for the car, it's a big hit in our house and we are absolutely chuffed with it. It's effortless to drive and quite calming - I love the 0-40mph pace and response. All I'll say is, given a choice, I'll never have another ICE car and, for what I ask of a car, it's everything I need and more.
Happy motoring, when yours arrives.

Re: Motability and Handcontrols

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:24 pm
by fatman
yes you can have indicator switch at pus pull .i got mine.i can give you phone number if u need.it was a company in newcastle

Re: Motability and Handcontrols

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:38 am
by StuartT
fatman wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:24 pm yes you can have indicator switch at pus pull .i got mine.i can give you phone number if u need.it was a company in newcastle

I live on the south coast so Newcastle would be a bit of a trek! However, its good to hear that they're available and I'd be interested in talking to them, if you could give me the number. I'll be contacting Motability as well, to see if they can shed any further light on the situation.
Cheers for the heads-up 👍

Re: Motability and Handcontrols

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:03 pm
by DumfriesDik
fatman wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:24 pm yes you can have indicator switch at pus pull .i got mine.i can give you phone number if u need.it was a company in newcastle
Is that Bewick Mobility?

https://www.bewickmobility.co.uk/

Re: Motability and Handcontrols

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:49 pm
by fatman
yes

Re: Motability and Handcontrols

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:46 am
by DumfriesDik
fatman wrote: Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:49 pmyes
They are very helpful, refreshingly so. To have access to so many types of controls was great.

Re: Motability and Handcontrols

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:05 am
by StuartT
DumfriesDik wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:46 am
fatman wrote: Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:49 pmyes
They are very helpful, refreshingly so. To have access to so many types of controls was great.

I've just spoken to them and they told me they get their kit from Jeff Gosling or Lodgesons. I then spoke to Motability who then spoke to Ergo (the original installer) and, long story short, they're looking into it and a solution seems to be on the horizon!
Many thanks, to everyone for letting me know.

Re: Motability and Handcontrols

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:07 am
by DumfriesDik
Good news then Stuart, well, a start at least!

Re: Motability and Handcontrols

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:36 pm
by StuartT
DumfriesDik wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:07 am Good news then Stuart, well, a start at least!
£583.00 later, and they're ordered. Motability wouldn't pay for retro-fitting.
Here's the rub, when I ordered the car in April the advanced payment was £999, but in July the Q3 price was £0. Thankfully, the salesman managed to cancel my original Motability order and re-order at the new price, whilst still keeping the original VW order in the system. Swings and roundabouts comes to mind...

Re: Motability and Handcontrols

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:34 am
by DumfriesDik
Blooming shame they wouldn't cough up, but well done on the paperwork for nil deposit.

Which controls did you go for in the end? In my Mazda there is a notch on the throttle. The handcontrols stopped there, but my wife could 'click' through it and get kick down. I had the controls adjusted and I can now get it in the Mazda.
Is that the same with the ID3?

Re: Motability and Handcontrols

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:46 pm
by StuartT
DumfriesDik wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:34 am Blooming shame they wouldn't cough up, but well done on the paperwork for nil deposit.

Which controls did you go for in the end? In my Mazda there is a notch on the throttle. The handcontrols stopped there, but my wife could 'click' through it and get kick down. I had the controls adjusted and I can now get it in the Mazda.
Is that the same with the ID3?
I've still got Ergo controls, but they've got to fit an ECU as well as a new handle with an indicator switch. They're just standard mechanical push/pull controls, that sound more basic than yours, but my wife is still able to drive it as normal as well. I've only ever used basic push/pull controls and I'm far from being an expert (even though I've been using them for more than 25yrs!) but, it sounds as if each company makes them slightly differently. It's good that your Mazda controls can be adjusted though.
Happy motoring, when the day comes.