Volkswagen ID.3 Forum

Hemming91 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:49 am Get your details on this thread too - viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1088

Dinsdale wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:39 am Hi all,

Ordered my Tour on 24th Jan, apparently its safe from the cut in the line up, so i should still get it. I have no idea when though, I think i may be bottom of the list as i ordered it with pretty much everything apart from the decortive vinal transfers and the bigger wheels (the 19s look much nicer), but it means i need pretty much every semiconductor board which is the issue isnt it. i guess i can live in some hope i will see it in 2022, but time will tell.

G43FAN wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:37 am Welcome, I've just got back from whizzing around Cumbria for a few days, I think I'd have struggled without Booths and their chargersm but they made it very easy and relaxing.

Dinsdale wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 12:13 pm

G43FAN wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:37 am Welcome, I've just got back from whizzing around Cumbria for a few days, I think I'd have struggled without Booths and their chargersm but they made it very easy and relaxing.

Booths are handy in Keswick, In Penrith Rheged is handy too and the café in both is nice

MotMot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:51 pm The 120kw IV’s share with the unit next door. So if someone is on that the most you’ll get is 60.

Last summer I consistently got 50 from those in Keswick - and I get the same from those in Kendal. Hats off to IV for having some sort of network in the Lakes unlike anyone else!!

MotMot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:51 pm The 120kw IV’s share with the unit next door. So if someone is on that the most you’ll get is 60.

Last summer I consistently got 50 from those in Keswick - and I get the same from those in Kendal. Hats off to IV for having some sort of network in the Lakes unlike anyone else!!

MotMot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:45 pm SOC and battery temperature also affect charge rate. You won’t get much above 50kw with more than 50% charge - and to pull 100kw (and more on newer id3’s) your battery has to be at least 25degrees… there’s a chance of this in winter after a hard motorway run - but probably not on other roads. I’ve had 100 in summer but maxed at 75-80 in winter.

Edit - I’ve only had 45 from one of the shared IV 120kw chargers.

G43FAN wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:12 am

MotMot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:45 pm SOC and battery temperature also affect charge rate. You won’t get much above 50kw with more than 50% charge - and to pull 100kw (and more on newer id3’s) your battery has to be at least 25degrees… there’s a chance of this in winter after a hard motorway run - but probably not on other roads. I’ve had 100 in summer but maxed at 75-80 in winter.

Edit - I’ve only had 45 from one of the shared IV 120kw chargers.

Derailing the Hello thread a bit, but your edit makes my point.
I think I have a good grasp of the charging of Lithium batteries so understand a lot of the external factors, but I wasn't asking 'Why don't I get 120kW?'

My point is for people new to the world of EV charging it's all a bit confusing, There are 4 distinct units in the car park, each has 2 tethered leads (1 CCS and 1 Chademo) on the screen of each unit it shows as per my image above 1 and 2 both with 120kW. You can only use 1 or the other of the tethered leads so you would hope to see anything up to 120kW given ideal conditions.
But when you charge you are barely getting above 50kW and the final confirmation screen shows the charger as being 62.5kW. On top of that on ZapMap they are shown as 50kW chargers. It's quite hard to make sense of it all at times.

Dinsdale wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 9:23 am

G43FAN wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:12 am

MotMot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:45 pm SOC and battery temperature also affect charge rate. You won’t get much above 50kw with more than 50% charge - and to pull 100kw (and more on newer id3’s) your battery has to be at least 25degrees… there’s a chance of this in winter after a hard motorway run - but probably not on other roads. I’ve had 100 in summer but maxed at 75-80 in winter.

Edit - I’ve only had 45 from one of the shared IV 120kw chargers.

Derailing the Hello thread a bit, but your edit makes my point.
I think I have a good grasp of the charging of Lithium batteries so understand a lot of the external factors, but I wasn't asking 'Why don't I get 120kW?'

My point is for people new to the world of EV charging it's all a bit confusing, There are 4 distinct units in the car park, each has 2 tethered leads (1 CCS and 1 Chademo) on the screen of each unit it shows as per my image above 1 and 2 both with 120kW. You can only use 1 or the other of the tethered leads so you would hope to see anything up to 120kW given ideal conditions.
But when you charge you are barely getting above 50kW and the final confirmation screen shows the charger as being 62.5kW. On top of that on ZapMap they are shown as 50kW chargers. It's quite hard to make sense of it all at times.

Now Im confused, your image above shows 2 CCS leads, not a CHAdeMO in sight? (something i notice as, whilst I wait for my ID.3 I have a LEAF which is really becoming a local only car due to less and less CHAdeMO availability. Grid serve being the ones who IRK me the most.

G43FAN wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:28 pm

MotMot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:51 pm The 120kw IV’s share with the unit next door. So if someone is on that the most you’ll get is 60.

Last summer I consistently got 50 from those in Keswick - and I get the same from those in Kendal. Hats off to IV for having some sort of network in the Lakes unlike anyone else!!

I was the only one charging on occasion and also the screen is slightly misleading in that case, but I was grateful they performed as they did, as there was not much else available, in Coniston next to the Information office there was a 3kW charger.

Utumno wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 9:54 am

Dinsdale wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 9:23 am

G43FAN wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:12 am

Derailing the Hello thread a bit, but your edit makes my point.
I think I have a good grasp of the charging of Lithium batteries so understand a lot of the external factors, but I wasn't asking 'Why don't I get 120kW?'

My point is for people new to the world of EV charging it's all a bit confusing, There are 4 distinct units in the car park, each has 2 tethered leads (1 CCS and 1 Chademo) on the screen of each unit it shows as per my image above 1 and 2 both with 120kW. You can only use 1 or the other of the tethered leads so you would hope to see anything up to 120kW given ideal conditions.
But when you charge you are barely getting above 50kW and the final confirmation screen shows the charger as being 62.5kW. On top of that on ZapMap they are shown as 50kW chargers. It's quite hard to make sense of it all at times.

Now Im confused, your image above shows 2 CCS leads, not a CHAdeMO in sight? (something i notice as, whilst I wait for my ID.3 I have a LEAF which is really becoming a local only car due to less and less CHAdeMO availability. Grid serve being the ones who IRK me the most.

Better get used to Chademo becoming less available; for Europe and the UK at least it's playing "Betamax" to CCS's "VHS".

Dinsdale wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 9:23 am
Now Im confused, your image above shows 2 CCS leads, not a CHAdeMO in sight? (something i notice as, whilst I wait for my ID.3 I have a LEAF which is really becoming a local only car due to less and less CHAdeMO availability. Grid serve being the ones who IRK me the most.